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Sorry Rosalind, You've just been hi-jacked
What do you mean by Hi-jacked?
Sorry Ltc, but I've got to argue on this one. And I can because I've done and still doing more- my homework and I can speak from my own experience as a Barefoot Trimmer (Barefoot trim is not the only type of trim out there) with success.
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No, I don't believe in natural/barefoot or whatever name they've called it lately.
Don't get me wrong a number of my horses are barefoot, but it has nothing to do with this new idea that all horses should/can go that way.
Not a "new" idea. ALL horses used to be barefooted and could go that way. It's the human intervention that degenerates hooves.
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It is because they have very good conformationly correct legs, proper foot/leg flight and are overall healthy animals.
But, they are trimmed... period.
So... you want me to show you photos of very conformationaly INcorrect horses with good barefoot hooves or what? There are plenty out there.
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To describe someones work as a traditional or barefoot trim is ridiculous.
It actually is not ridiculous beings there are more than one type of trim. And a standard trim to prepare for a shoe is sometimes quite different than that of a barefoot trim- or a standard trim preparing for barefoot use. There is more than one type.
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On the topic of barefoot trims, however, Dr. Turner has some words of caution.
“Some are really radical,” he says. “My rules of thumb are: Anything that draws blood can’t be good. Anything that leaves your horse lame afterward can’t be good.”
Very good advice and ALL proffesional barefoot trimmers who have their education will say this. As does Pete Ramey. Horse should NEVER be lame after a trim.
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None of my horses are Mustangs, and for @ least 5 generations have been bred and born in captivety under a very artificial environment.
So, to try an impose something on them, so radically against the way they are nutured in my minds eye makes little to no sense.
Most likely does not make sense to you because you have never given it a good shot. I have grounds because I speak from experience and not from just what I hear and how I was raised to believe. I like to test the theories and there was a time when I was critical of Barefoot Trimming so I had to dig deeper before making an opinion of it. So I did.
So... it makes no sense to you, the photos I have posted. That this type of trim I am using on said mare just doesn't make sense to you? I would think it certainly will make sense to most of our readers that this type of trim CAN and DID work for this horse (Obveously- she can actually FUNCTION as a horse now- when before she could not).
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In another research study;
Research has shown that when a foot is routinely trimmed too close at the toe each time the horse is shod, P-3 seems to settle some and the horse can be 'off' for a few days.
A Barefoot Trim should not ever come too close at the toe. And P-3 does not move within the hoof though the capsule around it does.
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When the sole ridge is over-trimmed, the laminae attachment of P-3 at the distal border may be compromised, which can allow the hoof wall to migrate forward, much like in laminitis.
A professional Barefoot Trimmer will plainly tell you that sole should never be over trimmed, and in most cases there is never a reason to trim a live, healthy Sole that is functioning perfectly well. This is part of what defines a Barefoot trim from a Standard farrier's trim. The healthy sole callous should be left alone to function as it was made to function. Period.
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However, when farriers trim the sole close at the toe to raise the foot angle, the heels are frequently left too long.
This is not part of a Barefoot Trim method. As I have said- there is not only one type of trim.
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Most, users of the barefoot method agree that your horse will show some signs of foot soreness while adjusting to his new feet.
If they are trimming their horses to the point of soreness/lameness- they are not following a correct Barefoot Trim Method which goes as the horse should never be lame or sore after a trim.
And NO. No experienced professional who knows what he is doing in Barefoot Trimming is going to tell you that your horse will show signs of foot soreness after a trim. That is completely false. Get your facts straight please and study before you post.
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Bottom line, no horse should be sore after any type of correct farrier work.
VERY correct.
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As, for the above pictures, they don't show the radical side of barefoot, just good common sense and a practical,slow,correct hands on approach.
Absolutely not. They perfectly show the difference in typical trimming and a Barefoot trim, which is leaving sole callous and allowing for the outer shell to re develop at the cornerary band and actually close in the cracks. Try it with a standard trim and those cracks will continually SPLIT as they hit the ground. A standard trim was ALREADY PREFORMED on this mare and with no avail. You can see the after photos of being trimmed with this method. They are the first photos where her hooves are broken wide open. Failure.
Barefoot Trim method was the only type that worked.