This is my second attempt at such a forum. In two posts, I managed to offend someone. The facts are simple. There are great trainers out there, and there always have been. That's clearly established. 'Nuff said.

The particular young lady was obviously confused and not well versed on what horse trainers do. Anyone with the amount of education you have should see that. Never did I say that uncertified people can't train. That would be silly.

I advised her to go to a certified trainer because you have someone standing behind you and serving as a model for everything you do. The certification IS applicable in a lawsuit. It is the name of a recognized master that stands behind you and states that you know what you are doing. When starting a business, name recognition is important. For example, Lazy JD's certification and accreiditation instantly lets me know that John's philosophy is something she believes in. Sight unseen, I would trust her with my horses, if both of those two are willing to endorse her.

If I insulted you as a trainer, I appologize. Never did I intend it. My advice was sound, and I would give the same advice to anyone that wishes to learn in this business. If that bothers you, I'm sorry.

P.S.- You made a comment in another thread about self promotion. It appears that you talk more about yourself than anyone here. I have an MEd, and have done more than I care to discuss. I have no interest in bragging about credentials or experience, my only intent was to help a young girl. Loosen up.