i do appreciate the help. i just found a 27 strand mohair roper cinch in 34" on e(vil)-bay. pretty cheap too. i'll see if i can't bag that bad boy before the weekend. i know it'll take him some time to figure out it's not going to hurt him, so i'll use it a while and see how it does. i always use a breast collar and i have a rear girth but mostly i leave half a hand of space between it and his belly. i'll use it if were doing some major up hill down hill stuff, but for the most part it just hangs.


thank you again for the advice. if i can be of help holler.