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Old 12-03-2008,
 
 
 
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I would like to teach my horses to rear during Liberty but don't know how.
I have a new colt and a 2 year old that I want to teach this.
does anyone know how to teach this. They are Arabians and I am training them for Liberty. Want to do this with a whip in hand.
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Old 12-04-2008,
 
 
 
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NO, You do not want to teach that at all.
Especially to a Stallion. Really,Really bad idea. Teaching any horse a dangerous behaviour on purpose is asking for an injury to either horse or handler or both, and most certainly to bystanders or children.
It also will not impress the judges nor will your horses place any higher. If you want to impress someone, teach them to whoa/stand on command. You'd be surprised the number of Liberty horses disqualified for not being able to be caught after their performance in the time allowed.
FYI- If your asking how to train it, you don't know how to fix it when it goes bad.
 
 
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Old 12-05-2008,
 
 
 
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I don't feel that it is a bad idea at all, If the stallion or filly knows her/his que to do so and work with that I believe it would be a lot of fun. I want to do demos with the Arabian breed and I have watched many Arabians show like that and have gotten a standing applaud.
I do know how Liberty works and I agree that they should stand and stop on command. They need to trot more than run.
I would like to teach both of them tricks. bow and rear, dance that sorta thing.
 
 
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Old 12-05-2008,
 
 
 
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It's actually dangerous for the horse to rear. I can't tell you how many times I've seen a horse rear(no rider) and go over backwards because they misjudged or lost balance.
There is a different move that is very similar (Ahh, can't remember the name, levade?) but doesn't put so much stress on the horse itself. Instead of stretching out and pawing the sky, they are required to shift the weight to the rear end, it's what the Lipizzans do. However, as with the Lipizzans this is not something they should be required to do until they are completely physically mature, at least 5-6 I would say, maybe later since Arabs mature later. If they're not physically ready you greatly increase the chances of an injury, or even make them lame for life. Lipizzans don't even begin to be trained until they're 10, and they're only taught the advanced maneuvers if they show an inclination for it.


As far as teaching them to bow and such, that shouldn't be a big deal. Is your 2 yr old a mare, stallion, or gelding? Are you keeping your colt intact?
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I have trained to Rear, bow, and wave. It is dangerous (and so is Cross Country) and there is a mile-long list as to reasons that I might not teach it some of which others have mentioned. There is also a mile-long list of requirements that I would have for a horse before teaching to Rear at liberty.

Mine are VERY well mannered on the ground and stay OUT of my space. When I ask for the rear, they are to quietly brace themselves, back a few steps if needed, shift their weight to the hindquarters ( I do not teach them to rear up wildly and striking but as the Lipizzaners and balancing their weight onto the base of the hindquarters) and raise their front end WITHOUT any striking. They tuck their legs under them safely and then back down, happy and looking for a treat. I have never had problems teaching this or have had any aggressiveness issues but it's not something anyone should teach.

Young Lipizzaner stallions begin Dressage training at age 4, and are not considered finished until the age of 16 years old. Their training is done by professionals and the trainers take their instructing very slowly and seriously!
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Old 12-08-2008,
 
 
 
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I have to reply to this situation, I could not help myself. This is a VERY BAD IDEA for horses that are so young, and you are not experienced enough to even begin training this move if you are asking how to do it. Putting weight on just two legs at the ages of your two horses is asking for trouble. I have a two and a half year old gelding and am just beginning to lunge a LITTLE bit as I know his knees are not closed and am hesitant to ask him to bend in a continuous circle yet. Just ask your young ones to do basic maneuvers instantly at your command, with a colt THAT should get you a standing ovation.
 
 
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