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I took this video this weekend, I was working the yearling stud colt that is my project. He does really well for me, the only major issue I have with him is he wants to be SOOO close! This wasn't the entire training session, but my camera batteries were dying. As you can see, I am having to chase him out of my space a lot. Anyone have any ideas as to how to keep him out of my bubble?

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I found your video most interesting. The style of training is SO very different to that in the UK. I feel like I have a million different questions!
My main question is what are you doing at the end of the video? where he has his lung line on his back and following you around. Sorry if it sounds like a stupid question! but I am really interested.
Also, with changes of direction on the lung line, have you ever had a horse fly in at you through the middle of the circle?
many thanks!
ps. he's lovely!
 
 
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I did not watch your video, I have dial up.

In any training, you should know what you want instead of what they are currently doing.
So don't just say "no", give him something else to do in it's place.
In this case "back up".
Not only do you get him to get off your heels, but he learns the word "back"

Just keep asking him to back off.
I have never had one that didn't listen after the first day.
Consistency is always the key.
If your standing grab the lead and ask him back.(short quick tug on lead) If he follows you ask him back again.
Doesn't take very long for them to figure it out.
If your walking away and he is right on your heels stop immediately and ask him back.
Then proceed, if he does it again, do the same thing.
He should follow you at a safe distance weather you walk backward or forward.

Longing, To keep him out in the circle, throw your slack at his side. If I am not using a line I'll use the whip and hold it straight out between me and the horse, so he can't come in. Then if you ask for more speed, he will have to move out. Then slow him down on the rail by slow body movement or calm voice.

Watched 1 min.
First of all, when you are walking, he is leading the way. No no no, get him off you. If something were to spook him on the right , he'd be on top of you. Same thing in the middle of the arena. You look as if you are in front of him.
Lunging is a driving move, you should be towards his hind end. If you want to stop or slow him, then step toward his front end. He is learning from you body language. Also, you dropped the slack. Hold the slack in your other hand , you should not be stepping over it while working him. If he were to turn, his leg is going to be caught in it.

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With a finished horse, after they join up with me I reward them and then they are supposed to be basically stuck to my side until I release them. If I stop, they stop. If I turn, they turn, it reinforces my leadership. Until recently his mind would wander and I would lose him to random dirt clods and interesting smells. Then I would walk in front of him and get his attention to hook him back up. Stalker is only a yearling so doesn't have much of an attention span and needs reminders but he is quickly maturing.

I have certainly had them cut in straight at me, lol, more than once. My reaction depends on HOW they come at me. If they are trying to come in and join me before I've asked for it I just send them away and move them off again. If they are aggressive about it they get into big trouble, and have to work A LOT harder than they would've had to. I really don't ever touch a horse with a whip unless they're being dangerous, if I have to I will definitely sting their butt if necessary though. I worked a huge QH a few years ago that would come around and fling his hind end at me kicking out. It didn't take him long to figure out it's a lot less tiring to trot around the arena when I ask for it!
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Thanks Jenejen for the explanation. It's interesting to see a different (to me) way of training. I'm so used to English style.
Do you ride mostly Western?
When I used to lung my horse, I used to keep a triangle shape - lung whip pointing down slightly, just behind the horse's hind quarters and lung line obviously at the front with no slack and any extra lung line hooped up in my hand in case she needed more length unexpectedly. With me just behind the motion to keep driving. If my horse tried to come in at all, I would point the lung whip toward her face and then correct myself into a driving position again.
Changing direction, I would stand her on the circle, turn my lung whip under my arm pointing behind me, and then slowly hoop up the lung line until I reached her. Then I would walk her to the center of the circle, change hands (whip and lung line) then send her out at walk to the outer circle to start work again. First time on each rein was always a little excitable at first, but she would calm right down after a couple of circles.
I would always wear a hat a gloves too. But that's just English style. In the UK, you're not covered under insurance if you're not wearing at least a hat, especially when riding.

Thanks again!

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I think, Western Riding style is the best for riding the horse. English style is also best for ride but in Western style ride is more secure than English style.
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I will also say that western.It is not due to this fact that i have learnt in western technique but its my own perception.
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I agree Western style of Riding is very nice.
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Make it uncomfortable for him to be in your space, then he will read your body language and move away from you.
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