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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: norco california
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reining training. but scared of other animals
i have a 3 year old breedstock paint mare. she has a walk jog and a lope, really balanced mare her neck reining is almost perfect.
but she is deathly scared of other animals, cattle sheep, donkeys anything. i hvae stalled her next to donkeys and she has calmed down. but my arena lines up to a herd of cattle, i have put her in the herd with them even and she still wont go near them. i cant even get her in the arena gate without her snorting and running me over.
i want to train her for reining, and trail(outdoors) even though she is bred and shown successfully in halter, its just what i want to do with her, nothing big time just the training.
where do i start with her from here? what do i do about her reaction of other animals?
she has already put me in the hospital for 6 months, with internal injuries becasue she fell over backwards on me from her reaction of sheep while i was riding her.
and 6 months prior to that she had dry land distemper leading up to my 6 months accident with her. so for the last year she was just being fed and i threw her out to pasture for 4 months so she could grow and be somethign other than a show horse, now she is where she is suppose to be as of under saddle, just not with howshe is with other animalss, she used to not care just all of the sudden couldnt handle other animals.
someone help
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08-30-2009,
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Pa
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Your not going to like my answer, Sell her.
IMO, No horse is worth your life, and if she is willing to give such an over reaction and come all the way over she is dangerous.
Now if selling is not an option and you can get on without being nervous- Be honest with yourself.
First pull a blood titer for distemper but a general cbc/panel is also good, you need to be sure she is completely healthy before progressing.
If you are near and can afford a trainer , employ outside help.
If not, start from the very beginning and treat her as if completely unbroke, you may find that some of the basic steps were skipped, the ones she knows will go by in a short amount of time and very easily, but if you get stuck on something, its because it was never learned.
Have her teeth checked, horses normally only rear from pain.
And above all, Be Careful.
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08-31-2009,
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: norco california
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ya selling her is not an option. and its not that im nervous with her because im really not, i just pay attention to her moves more now so than before.. i have had 2 different trainers work with her.
her blood has been clean for 6 months now.
and shes not a bad horse just scared of other animals, which a year ago never bothered her. and under saddle training is very good i have done everything with her myself since after halter training, where she was shown. i just need another technique or way of approaching her fear.
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09-09-2009,
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02-13-2010,
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Devill, LA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothrider
i have a 3 year old breedstock paint mare. she has a walk jog and a lope, really balanced mare her neck reining is almost perfect.
but she is deathly scared of other animals, cattle sheep, donkeys anything. i hvae stalled her next to donkeys and she has calmed down. but my arena lines up to a herd of cattle, i have put her in the herd with them even and she still wont go near them. i cant even get her in the arena gate without her snorting and running me over.
i want to train her for reining, and trail(outdoors) even though she is bred and shown successfully in halter, its just what i want to do with her, nothing big time just the training.
where do i start with her from here? what do i do about her reaction of other animals?
she has already put me in the hospital for 6 months, with internal injuries becasue she fell over backwards on me from her reaction of sheep while i was riding her.
and 6 months prior to that she had dry land distemper leading up to my 6 months accident with her. so for the last year she was just being fed and i threw her out to pasture for 4 months so she could grow and be somethign other than a show horse, now she is where she is suppose to be as of under saddle, just not with howshe is with other animalss, she used to not care just all of the sudden couldnt handle other animals.
someone help
My mare use to do that so I asked my neighbor if I could put her in the same pasture with a few of his cows. after a month of living nonstop with them did she get over her fear.
As like yours she attemps to freak out while riding down the road at other things. So I urge her forward. When I feel it's getting "dangerous" or unsafe I turn her around walk away and then reapproach again.
I'm not a fan of selling problem horses, If you have the resources use them. PUT HER IN THE SAME PASTURE WITH HER "FEAR" AND YOU MAYBE SURPRISED AT THE RESULTS.
GOOD LUCK
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02-16-2010,
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Halter Broke
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Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: California
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Provided she is healthy I would advise you to work on fear control work with her. We cannot tell a 800+ animal to not be afraid, but you can teach her how to control her fear and replace her Dangerous Reaction with a Positive Response.
Your horse is not as well trained as you need her to be. A horse cannot be rearing, spinning, bolting, running you down and be truly light and responsive to the bit/lead rope. In order for the horse to be having a reactive moment there is tension/resistance in their body somewhere. So you need to get her more solid and consistent in her bridle work, which includes responsive to the lead rope as well. You need her priority to be responding to your request and thus not having time to notice the distractions.
As for other animals, yes you can expose her to some of them and help her realize That animal will not hurt her, but for this horse it is not enough. You will not be able to pasture her with every animal that scares her and that is where fear control and (much) better responsiveness to the bridle comes into play. She has to learn it is ok to be afraid of something, but she has to do what you are asking despite her fear.
Side note - I had a Paint mare that chose going up as an escape route (when lead) when pressured as well. Horses have six directions to flee/move; left, right, forward, backward, up and down. For rearing, again, she needs to be responsive to the rein and lead and release to pressure on the poll for leading and for riding she needs a head down cue. She cannot rear if she is releasing to the pressure on the poll or putting her head down on demand.
In short, she is telling you she needs your help in teaching her a bunch more to keep you and her safe. Either by you or a trainer if you do not feel safe with her.
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03-03-2010,
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Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Chapel Hill, NC
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Get a baby goat.
I feel you pain. I had a 26 year old foundation stock, retired barrell mare who i saved from a kill sell that was deathly afraid of live stock BUT only while being ridden. She was just a crazy, sweet, trail horse and old enough for me to worry about injury (to her) so i chose not to address the problem.
What did the two trainers you employed say on the matter/ what methods did they use to try to fix it? did anything seem to help?
Im sure she is your baby so i wont recomend selling her, i know i couldn't sell mine. If you have a larger stall or round pen with nautral footing i would recomend putting her with some type of just weaned live stock, preferable goat or lamb because they're so small when young. She'll either worry herself into a mental breakdown (doubtful), kill the poor thing (again, unlikely) or stay as far away as possible till she learns to deal with it. Then, she has a buddy to grow up with that will eventually look just like those scary things out in the pasture.
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